So, look at this beaut of a card here. Just recently, this card came up for sale on ebay. It's a Nicolas Batum Superfractor White RC, numbered 1/1. You can find the listing here....for $500. No small amount of change. But myself, being a Nicolas Batum card honk, I had to investigate the details of the listing. Now, the seller says that the card was sent to him by Topps. It supposedly wasn't pack pulled. I emailed the seller and asked why Topps would send him a card that wouldn't fit the definition of a typical redemption (auto or relic). I know that Batum had no rookie sigs from Finest, and hasn't had any relic cards produced yet. So why would Topps send him this card?
And of course, I get no response from seller...who's in Australia.
So what do I do? Well, at first, I do nothing. It's just another card that I can't have from my favorite player. But something bothered me about the card. First off, let's run down what's wrong with the listing.
1) It's a card over $50 from an international seller. Always dicey.
2) A card that has no auto is said to be direct from Topps - not pack opened.***see note on bottom (updated)
3) The card - with a listing for $500 isn't scanned - but is listed with just a photo.
4) No back of the card is shown.
5) Seller refuses to send response to a buyer who actually has a Batum RC as his ebay avatar. For all he knows, I'm an actual potential buyer.
6) When did Topps start putting 1/1 on the front of cards? Most all numbering is on the back, right?
So I went fishing. And I found another Topps Finest from same year that happens to be a white superfractor numbered 1/1. Here's what I found.
So I found a Dwight Howard card. Actually, pretty nice card for not being a rookie card. Topps Finest did get many things right along the way. First off, this seller wants $170 for the card. Still, a bit high for a non RC. But probably worth somewhere within $50 of what he's looking for, at least for a D. Howard card.
Now, what do we see. First off, a seller who wants more than $100 for a card decided to put a front and a back in the listing. Hmmm. There's only two sides to a card, so both are pretty important. At least that's the prevailing wisdom.
What don't you see? You don't see the 1/1 on the front and center of the card. And the numbering (hard to see on the scan) is located on the back where you'd expect to see the numbering for a Topps release. So what are the odds that Topps would make different cards of the Superfractor series with two different numbering locations? And how often does Topps send Superfractor RC's to people as opposed to putting them in packs?
Is the Batum real?
The one theory is Topps really sent a Superfractor 1/1 with the numbering on the front while others that were pack pulled were numbered on the back?
Or the other theory is that the card is a fake.
What do you readers think? Really I'm getting pissed off the more I write about it. If the seller faked it, he deserves a punch in the face. I'm tired of fakes on the market. But if Topps sent a card that collectors would really want in this condition then what does that say about their Quality Control? Why would they make cards that weren't consistent in design?
Frustration abounds.
UPDATE:
The seller wrote back just after this post was put up, interestingly enough. He says that it was a draft redemption. Which makes sense. I myself redeemed a refractor once upon a time and I completely forgot about that. But even that numbering was listed on the back. So forgive the argument that the card wasn't pack pulled - it couldn't have been. But did Topps number this one on the front and number everything else on the back? It's the numbering on the front of the card that still gets me, especially in light of the Dwight Howard card.
2 comments:
That's a tough one. I did find this C. Frye xfractor 1/1 stamped on the front http://cgi.ebay.com/1-1-CHANNING-FRYE-TOPPS-FINEST-ROOKIE-FRAMED-XFRACTOR-/200474762749?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Basketball&hash=item2ead3a1dfd#ht_1335wt_1067 . I know its a dif year, but still. The other thing that makes the seller REALLY shady is his counterfeit NBA jersey operation he has going on.
The best way to prove that it's a legit card is for him to post a pic of the back of the card so you can read the serial number on the Topps hologram on the back. You could go to Topps website and punch it in (I know UD has a page that you can type holo serial codes into to verify authenticity, I would think Topps does). I have seen 1/1 cards with the Holo serial code on the cards, so this Batum should have one.
Also, there are a bunch of offers already on the card. Kinda of interesting.
I wouldn't worry about it at all, man. Those would be unbelievably hard to forge, and nothing about it looks wrong to me.
There are lots of Exquisites on the bay with just a front pic. The 1/1 stamp is on the front, so I assume he just figured the back isn't very important.
Furthermore, I do know what the difference is. The Frye card mentioned above is from 04/05--yet, his rookie year is in 05/06. It's an XRC, which are in Finest every year and are often stamped in different ways than the normal vets and rookies. The Batum 1/1 is from 07/08 Finest, yet as you know, he was a rookie in 08/09. The Batum is an XRC as well.
So, if you do make an attempt at getting the card, I wouldn't be worried about it at all. Topps does their XFractors for a reason--no one else can.
Thanks!
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